Posts Tagged ‘Voting

27
Oct
08

“Why Vote?” Discussion In Progress…

Why Vote?

Postby Dave C on Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:28 pm
Got your attention? Just to set things up a little: I used to be a die hard Republican, had a conservative blog, and at one time was in the running to have my own conservative talk radio show on one of the local stations (AM 1280). Over the last couple years, God has greatly challenged (and changed) me: What Kingdom do I belong to? Where do I place my hope? Where does change come from: Washington D.C, or through direct action in our communities? Even more recently, I’ve had an ‘epiphany’ of sorts: Government is a beast that gathers power and resources unto itself, and even the best intentioned politician will get sucked into becoming a pawn of a living, breathing system that’s only purpose is to grow and oppress.

Many Christians think of government as a tool to forward their social issues, both liberal and conservative. Often, the issue of abortion is brought up. Really though, if we raise our kids with a Godly value of life, they could have an abortion clinic on every corner and it wouldn’t mean anything. And if we where to impact or neighbors the way I believe God has called us to, they’d go out of business. Same with gay marriage: It could be legal everywhere, yet if…And if we took back the social programs from the government and were Christ to our neighbors instead of counting our taxes as tithes…

I have no faith in government to effect positive change in our society, and I think it a sin to place my hope there. That is why I have recently become a “Christian Anarchist”. Not an unbathed, window-breaking, violent protester, but a peaceful insurrectionist. I will effect positive change in my community, learn to love those who are different than me, not judge people by their economic status, reach out to those around me.

In light of what I have presented, for the first time since I was of voting age, I will not be voting in two weeks. I choose not to participate in the system.

So, leave it to Dave to present a controversial topic: Why Vote?

Dave C

Re: Why Vote?

Postby XXXX. on Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:22 am
Those are some really well thought out, and beautifully presented ideas, my friend. Thanks for sharing them.

Re: Why Vote?

Postby XXX on Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:48 pm
Dave,
Just wondering about something, after thinking about your well-thought out position. Do you think that maybe love requires us to vote? What I mean is this: we know, as you ably argue, that the kingdom of God is spiritual not material or political. We know that God alone is our King, provider and helper. We do not depend on this world or its ways for our lives. But…what about those who do not know God as King? Those who are utterly dependent upon this world and its political and social programs and resources because they have no God? If we are to love our neighbor as ourself, is part of that duty of love to work hard to elect good men and women who will see to social justice and work for righteous causes, and therefore work for programs which will help our neighbors? In this way is the political system actually a gift of God to humanity to minister (as Paul says in Romans 11) in His stead? What do you think?

Re: Why Vote?

Postby Dave C on Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:18 pm
I’ve thought about that, and I’ve come to believe that we are to affect people in our neighborhoods and work places. I honestly do not believe that anything good can come out the government. For every “hand up” they offer, there is another hand picking our pockets. They seldom increase freedom: Every law makes a new batch of criminals, every freedom they try to wrangle in or enforce ends up tying our hands. Someday soon, it will be illegal to preach against sin because somebody holds that sin as a value. While ‘protecting’ someones rights, they will criminalize people who really care.

As far as sending good people to serve in government, why would I want to do that to somebody? Government is an entity unto itself, bent on enslaving the people it ‘serves’. Good people are sucked in and corrupted, or spit out. I believe it’s a spiritual thing Just take a drive around any capital in the country: with in blocks you’ll find some of the high crime rates and poverty it the city. It sucks the life out of people, destroys them, alters their perspective.

So I place no hope in government’s ability to affect positive change in peoples lives. The way we need to work positive change and shine the light of Christ into the lives of unbelievers is face to face, not through government programs. Besides, we see where government programs have got us: A self-marginalized church that depends on a secular, anti-Christian system to care for people. It’s failed those it ‘serves’ in many ways, the same way the church has failed people by surrendering it’s mission to the government.

25
Oct
08

(Non)Voting Quote II

I plan on publishing a (Non)Voting  quote every day up until the election.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

Voting is “merely a labor-saving device for ascertaining on which side force lies and bowing to the inevitable… It is neither more nor less than a paper representative of the bayonet, the bully, and the bullet.”
Benjamin R. Tucker, 1889

24
Oct
08

Every vote for a governing office is an instrument for enslaving me.

Every vote for a governing office is an instrument for enslaving me.
Dr. M.E. Lazarus, II9




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